Check out this exclusive interview with alternative dental practitioner, lecturer, and featured speaker at the upcoming Women’s Wellness Conference™, Dr. David Villarreal, DDS, and discover:
- The fatal flaws in modern dental practices that open the door to infections and a compromised immune system.
- How the food you eat is the single biggest factor for healthy teeth and gums.
- What procedures you should avoid at all costs when visiting a conventional dentist.
Transcript of “Is Your Dentist Doing More Harm Than Good?”
Lucien Gauthier (LG): Welcome everyone! This is your host, Lucien Gauthier, and I am here with Dr. David Villarreal. Dr. David is quite an extraordinary individual. He is a student of Dr. Hal Huggins, who passed away recently, but has taken our stage, and is sort of considered ‘The Grandfather of Alternative or Holistic Dentistry’.
And Dr. David, you’ve spent a lot of time pursuing your career in Holistic Dentristry. You’ve got your own practice.
Also, he is the founder of some great natural dental products. You’ve got the toothpaste. You’ve got the mouth rinse line. That’s the Estrella line.
You’re really a great voice, as well as a practitioner, and you’re going to be taking the stage at our upcoming Women’s Wellness Conference™, so we’re really excited to have you there. It’s going to be Friday, October 9th – Sunday, October 11th. For anyone interested, we’ve got our early bird tickets going on sale.
Dr. David, we’re here today just to let people kind of get an introduction to who you are and I know a lot of people, including myself, would like to hear your story about how you got started. I am assuming that you studied traditional dentistry and then moved over to holistic dentistry. Is that correct?
Dr. David Villarreal (DDV): Yes. Basically what happened..I went to a very great dental school but very traditional, USC, and I graduated in 1984. So for about 7 years I did traditional dentistry and I woke up one day and asked myself, “What did I do to myself? Here I studied all of these years and all I’m going to do is ‘drill and fill’?”
So, you know, the universe, God is great. That then started my new thought process of how to do dentistry by a patient coming into my office and I looked in her mouth and I was already doing white fillings just because I liked them better. They looked better. The materials were horrible back then but I still was, you know, going along that path.
And when I looked in her mouth I said, “Wow, you don’t have any mercury fillings”.
And she said, “No, I went to Dr. Hal Huggins.”
And I said, “Who?”
And she goes, “I’ll be back tomorrow.”
So she brought me his book It’s All in Your Head. I started to read it. I couldn’t put it down. The next thing I knew I was flying to Colorado Springs where he still had a dental clinic there. He wasn’t working any more but he had some dentists working with him. And so I took the introductory course. I flew back home. I then, the following month, took the advanced course and never looked back.
It made SO much sense what he was doing and just the video footage that I would see on patients telling him how much better their health had improved by just removing heavy metals from the mouth.
So since 1992 I’ve been basically following Dr. Hal Huggins’ protocols. I’ve been going to a lot of holistic dental meetings and that’s basically it.
LG: And so you must see a lot of people that have, you know, maybe experienced conventional dentistry. And, I’m sure you’ve shaken your head many a time looking at someone’s mouth thinking, “What did they do to them?” Or just seeing the flaws in that system. What are the types of things that you are seeing people coming in with that cause them to go from, you know, conventional dentistry to something like a holistic dentist because of the negative outcome they’ve experienced?
DDV: What is the most frustrating thing for me is how patients once they get to me are being reactive instead of proactive.
What I mean by that is they already have an autoimmune challenge. They have health issues and they’ve spend thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars trying to improve their health. And what ends up happening is either they or someone else will say, “Well, what’s in your mouth?” And then it starts to make sense.
The problem is in Western medicine, we’ve decapitated the patient. We separated the dentist from the physician.
Basically meaning that whatever the dentist does it’s you know, it’s for cosmetics, it’s to make the teeth last longer, so on and so forth. But if you look at Chinese medicine, they understand that the head is connected to the body. So whatever is going on in the mouth will affect the other parts of the body. So what happens is when we do clean up someone’s mouth, we do see an improvement of their health.
It’s just again, it’s just a piece of the puzzle.
You know, that you also have to bring in diet. You also have to bring in some type of meditation, or you know, something to help them de-stress and so on and so forth. And that is my goal or what I feel my duty as a holistic dentist is: to educate the patient. To show them, you know, the pros and cons and why I do what I do, and then it is up to them to intuitively go inside themselves and ask themselves, “Do I really want to do this?” because it’s a whole paradigm shift.
We need to do a blood test to see what materials they are compatible with. There are very strict protocols in the removal process. That’s why it would frustrate Dr. Huggins when he would teach all these dentists and the dentists would kind of do it his way, but what he found out was there was pretty much only a handful of us that were following his protocol to a “T” and when we do that, it helps the patient improve their health so much more.
LG: Now is this an economic decision when a dentist sits down and says, you know, I’d like to be more of a physician. I’d like to educate my patient more, but realistically the economics of it, maybe in procuring the instruments and the materials, it’s just the system is set up to go a certain direction. Do you find that economics plays a huge role in their decision?
DDV: Holistic dentistry really in some ways is less expensive. You don’t make as much money because we really don’t believe in implants. We don’t believe in root canals. Those two things in themselves are billions and billions of dollars.
So we were taught in dental school to save a tooth at all costs and what ends up happening is people don’t realize that, like Nadine has mentioned, your tooth is a live organ. You’ve got nerve and blood supply and fluids going in and out of it all day long but people don’t realize that it can be, like your gallbladder or your pancreas, or any of that.
Each tooth is an organ.
And so when you do a root canal, you are actually removing the nerve. So, all it is is a shell of a tooth. It’s a dead organ.
And that being said, the whole root canal issue, you know you can go on to Dr. Mercola’s website and there is so much information on the pros and cons. Now a lot of people don’t want to lose their teeth so they will go and get the root canal done and then later find out, “Wow, I’m starting to have health issues”. Then they have to decide, “Well, am I going to remove it?”
The problem with being a holistic dentist and most dentists don’t go that route, I feel, it’s just because they don’t want to make that paradigm shift. You know, there is more money to be made with implants and root canals.
LG: And so for people who are kind of looking for an alternative. You are out in California..let’s say we’ve got someone out in Maine or Vermont or you know, somewhere else. What are some of the things that you are looking for when you are looking for a dentist? You mentioned Nadine Artemis and one of the things that she mentioned was you really have to have an intimate relationship with your dentist. They are working in your mouth. You really need to suss them out quite carefully and choose very carefully.
What are some of the things that you would look for if you were a patient and you were looking to find the right dentist? What are some of the tell-tale signs that, alright, this is the person that is going to do it the right way. The correct way. The holistic way.
DDV: That’s a great point I think Nadine does make because I always explain to my patients.
I go, “This becomes an energy exchange between you and I. And you personally have to feel within yourself that I would give you the best dentistry because if there is not a good energy exchange between the patient and the doctor, then its not going to work”.
What I always tell my patients is if someone wants to find someone that is really holistic and will do, let’s say Dr. Hal Huggins’ protocol, they need to educate themselves and you can educate yourself easily on the internet. There is a lot information on pros and cons of certain dentists and so, you know, there is Dr. Hal Huggins’ call line, where even though he’s passed away his employees there will refer you to his elite dentists and then there are the other dentists.
Because it depends where they are at, right? Some of my patients are willing to fly and have me do all their dentistry under conscious sedation and then they fly back home and so on and so forth. But there are a handful of us in the nation that pretty much follow his protocols to the “T”.
LG: And you know, where I’m from – Boston – if you were to say this is about an energy exchange between the two of us, I think most people would fall out of their chair because most people’s experience of a dentist is literally being told what to do and even a little bit bullied and I’ve been in that chair. The last time I went to a conventional dentist just to get my bite adjusted, I was bullied. You know, I was really really pressed and pushed to get some serious expensive work done and I simply declined and I literally felt the agitation of the dentist as he was working on my bite and it was very uncomfortable.
DDV: Right. And that happens more than not and it really upsets me. There was this article in Reader’s Digest, oh my gosh in my old practice, which has been over ten years, and I actually had a couple of them on the coffee table in my office because I wanted patients to ask me. There was this one person who went to different dentists nationwide and received a dozen different treatment plans. You know, from let’s say $5,000 to $50,000, okay? And it was amazing. And so you know, I wanted the patients to ask me, “Okay what about this article? Why does this happen?”
It’s because some dentists are, you know, it depends on the school they went to. It depends on the course they went to. I always tell my patients, I go, “No one wants to sit in the dental chair. I don’t want to sit in the dental chair. And if there isn’t a good communication between us two then things aren’t going to work.”
You know, it’s just like anything else in life, right? When you’re bullied into something, things don’t work out the way they should.
I always tell patients, “Please, please feel comfortable and please always ask me questions because it is your mouth, but it’s also your health and it’s your body.”
LG: And we’re really excited to have you at the upcoming Women’s Wellness Conference™. You are such a great communicator. You are such a great soul and having you in this setting, I think, is going to be really spectacular for our audience. So let’s talk a little bit about what you are going to focus on. What people can expect to hear. Hopefully they are going to get a lot out of this and I’m hoping for a lot of people it will really shift, you know, who they are doing their dentistry work with, you know if it’s not you, to someone else, you know, just obviously just a paradigm shift for the dentist but also for the patient. And so that is going to be really interesting.
DDV: Thank you and I really am honored that you guys are having me speak. It’s going to be a great opportunity for me to teach everyone about Holistic Dentistry. My main goal in the lecture that I’m going to give will be teaching everyone basic 101 dentistry – the materials, what could be in their mouth – and then to have them ask their dentist, “Well I have this in my mouth, what can you do about it?”
Because, for example, most people they go, “You know, I have porcelain crowns. I don’t have any mercury in my mouth.”
Well, most porcelain crowns have metal underneath them and most of the time that metal is nickel-based. Nickel, is a carcinogen, okay? So there is that factor.
There are the factors of different types of composites. You know, since it is The Women’s Wellness Conference™ I am going to specifically target why is it important for women because you know, it affects women much differently than it affects men. Not just the materials, but also the jaw joints and what it does to the mother’s milk when she’s breastfeeding. All of these things come into play.
One of the first studies that really convinced me to change from allopathic to holistic was a study done in Sweden where they tested the amount of mercury in aborted and miscarried fetuses. Okay? And so what they found was a direct correlation of how much mercury was in these fetuses was equivalent to the mercury fillings in the mother. So it was passing through. So that’s where Sweden was the first country to ban silver fillings from their country because they understood that that mercury vapor was going into the babies.
I mean, one of the biggest questions is, everyone keeps talking about, you know, autism. There is such a big increase. Well, when the fetus is developing, you’re already dumping mercury from the mother’s amalgams. Well then these babies are coming out and they are injecting all these vaccinations, correct? And there is thimerosal, which is mercury. So you’re just inundating these poor babies. Their immune system is not even developed. You know, no wonder we have a big increase in autism, but nobody looks at that. Nobody looks at that it started the day the inception occurred.
LG: Wow. That’s, I mean, that’s pretty unbelievable. For people listening, I would like them to get a couple of tips and you know, because I have a two-and-a-half year old daughter we were just talking before the interview recording and you had mentioned something like, “Don’t let them do this to your daughter”, and I was actually thinking it would be great to give people listening to this recording a little bit of advice like: Don’t let them to this to you if you are sitting in that chair.
What are some of the top two or three things, maybe revisiting what you said about my daughter, but then also for someone who is older in their adult years? What are some of the things you view as pretty dangerous or very unskillful?
DDV: Well one of the things is definitely fluoride. The sad thing is at a lot of pedodontic practices, you know, children’s dental practices, they kind of bully the parents into having the kids do fluoride treatments. Fluoride is horrible, not only for the patient, not only for the child, but also as an adult. What people don’t understand is the pineal gland absorbs so much fluoride from not just our water but from toothpaste and from these fluoride treatments. And our pineal gland is our third eye. It’s our intuitiveness so we’re basically shutting it down. And we’re shutting it down from these little kids to adults. So that’s number one.
Number two, when little kids are 5 or 6, their first molars come out and then their second molars and these offices want to do sealants. There are studies to show that these sealants, which basically covers the top of the teeth so they won’t get cavities, affects the estrogen levels in these kids. So that’s a big no-no. I would rather have the child not have sealants and if, you know what? If they do have a really decent diet, they are not going to get decay.
DDV: It’s because of our American diet that all these kids just start getting rapid decay. So those are the first two things that I would really be wary of. Be wary also of the type of toothpaste and mouth rinse that you use.
Drink a lot of alkaline water. You want to hydrate. Hydration is huge especially as we age the amount of saliva decreases and so because a lot of people are on all these different types of medication they start to get dry mouth. Then they start to get a lot of decay. So it’s not just when you’re a kid and a teenager that you are going to get decay. You actually get more decay as you age so the whole thought process has to change to, “I need to drink better water. I need to hydrate better. I need to not drink cold fluids when I’m eating because that slows down the digestive system which then causes, you know, regurgitation and acid reflux, and then that affects the mouth.”
LG: Wow, that’s fantastic. You know, it’s funny, David Wolfe told me that piece of advice years ago…
DDV: Which one?
LG: The “don’t drink cold fluids”. I sometimes don’t even drink any fluids while I’m actually eating or just before and I go to a restaurant and they are like, “Really? Nothing? No water? Nothing?” or you know, we go out with family and they are like, “Really? Nothing? Nothing?” and I’m like, “Nope. Nothing. Nothing.” And then afterwards I’ll wait a little bit and then I’ll really hydrate.
You’ve got some amazing amazing pieces of advice. All of us here at The Women’s Wellness Conference™ Team, we’re really looking forward to hearing your presentation in particular because, you know, this is one of those niches of the health arena that there are very few people doing what you are doing and certainly being as vocal as you are being and so we are really excited to have you here.
And for people listening, we’ve got The Women’s Wellness Conference™ coming up Friday, October 9th through Sunday, October 11th. David Wolfe will be hosting and we’ve got a great, great line up. Vani Hari, The Food Babe, who joined us at The Longevity Now® Conference will be there. Robyn O’Brien, they call her the food’s Erin Brokovich by The New York Times will be joining us. Dr. Sara Gottfried who has been with us for many different events, The Longevity Now® Conference and The Women’s Wellness Conference™ will be taking the stage. We mentioned Nadine Artemis. She is going to be doing her presentation. So this is a really really powerhouse lineup. It is going to be the best event ever that we’ve had. So it’s not just for women, it’s for men also.
It’s going to be really interesting how holistic dentistry kind of shapes itself maybe over the next 10 years. Let’s talk about that just to wrap up this interview. Where do you see it heading, let’s say the next 10 – 20 years? Do you see in your kind of compatriots and the people that you came up with that are doing conventional dentistry, do you see them moving more towards holistic dentistry?
DDV: You know, it’s really interesting because I’ve been doing dentistry for 30 years and so some of my colleagues and dear friends they’ll call me up and go, “David, what do you think of this material?”
“David, you know, this patient asked me about this…”
The way we’re seeing it change: It’s the lay person. It’s the patient that is educating themselves and are questioning the allopathic dentist.
And a lot of them will poo poo it, but a lot of them will start to ask, “Well, where did you see this. Tell me more about it.”
So, it’s because of the internet and it’s because everyone is trying to be healthy, they are starting to educate the dentists. And the dentists really don’t want to lose their patients because of this so they are willing to work with them. And if they are not, you can always tell the patient, well then it’s your choice. You can stay with him or you can go somewhere else. But it’s your health. It’s your mouth and it’s your health.
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